wondering what type of aircraft..

[gerrit poels]

Hello

Can anyone tell me from witch aeroplane this propeller is?

Thanks in advance

Gerrit

[pmdec]

Hi,

The words you show on your first pic translate "... propeller not have to be ..." and, thus, some are missing! Could you show the whole face with the whole inscription legible? And also the two sides of the hub? And give the whole length?

Regards,
PM

[Mtskull]

From the inscription on the blade, we can see that it was made by Integrale. “BREVETE” means “Patent” in French. S.O.D.C. stands for Service des Operations Discretes et d'Intelligence Commerciale, which I believe was the organisation that used to administer patent rights in France.
From the inscription on the hub, we can see: …ELICE NE DOIT PAS V….
It would help to see the inscription in full but I suspect it reads: CETTE HELICE NE DOIT PAS VOLER; in English THIS PROPELLER MUST NOT BE FLOWN.
If I am correct, then the answer to your question is that is isn’t for an aeroplane; it is either a display piece or intended to propel a ground or water based vehicle.

[pmdec]

Hi,

Yes, it is a Chauviere Integrale.

But ...

.../... From the inscription on the hub, we can see: …ELICE NE DOIT PAS V… .../...

There is another word! The inscription reads "...ELICE NE DOIT PAS ETRE V..." :
- "...ELICE" which can't be other that HELICE (airscrew / propeller)
- NE DOIT PAS ETRE = cannot be
- V... : could be VENDUE (sold) but cannot be VOLER because NE PEUT ETRE VOLER (ou VOLE) is not grammatically correct. Or VISSEE (screwed). Or ? ... I fail to find another French word beginning with V which could be stamped there...

Regards,
PM

[gerrit poels]

thx for the replies!!! nice to read!

is marked 'cette h?lige ne doit pas etre vendu

265 cm long

thx

[gerrit poels]

blades are screwed together with crass screws

Someone told me it could be from a Bl?riot....
It could be french because i live in belgium.

[gerrit poels]

Bl?riot

[pmdec]

Hi,

For sure the prop is French: Lucien Chauviere who made the "Integrale" propellers began with a workshop in Paris (Sevran Street) and later in Lyon. It was the best known and the most prolefic propeller maker until WW1.

"[Cette h]elice ne peut etre v[endue]": It is the first time I see such a sentence. Probably not for flying but many more interesting than a standard propeller.

What do you mean with "blades are screwed together with crass screws"? Are you speaking about laminations (the planks from which the prop is made) which are screwed using brass screws?

Anyway, you have to post pics of the 4 sides of the hub, large and clear, to advance in the determination of this very special propeller. Perhaps sort of model which can show how it is made by unscrewing the laminations? If you can securely remove the metallic cone, it would be better.

Regards,
PM

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